Series 1 help

Kevin Combs · Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:55 pm Post subject: Series 1 help

Here are some pictures of a series 1 I just picked up. It is rough and far from complete, but it was cheap. I can't find the frame #'s on anybody's list. It is different than my 59 Li 125 in the rear of the frame. Check out the pics and clue me in if any one has an idea of what this is. The picture I took of the frame #'s was blurry where the stylized i is in front of the 125 Li *xxxxxx*. I'm pretty sure it is Italian. There is a sticker on the front fender that says "lackland AFB 1967". http://www.flickr.com/photos/bikejunky/?saved=1
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bayarealam · Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 4:35 am Post subject:

Fun project
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izzy · Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 4:07 pm Post subject:

Maybe they accidentally stamped a 150 number on a 125 frame? I have a S1 frame with a S2 number and all S1 body parts.
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netweasel · LCUSA Member Joined: 03 Oct 2004 Posts: 716

I would chalk it up to a run of frame number anomalies. Did it have an engine, what was the engine number?

Kevin Combs · Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:38 pm Post subject: Lambretta

I was told there may be more parts to come when the guy digs them up, but he remembers throwing the engine away! He did say the headset bottom may still be there somewhere. He sold the other side panel. I'm not sure what other bits may show up.
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Kevin Combs · Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:32 pm Post subject: Lambretta

Does anyone know when the holes in the rear of the frame changed into ribs? This oddball has the breather holes in the air intake as a frame breather, but also has the hole for the scoop under the seat. My 59 has ribs and the holes are gone under the "vent".
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Grumpy225 · Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:32 pm Post subject:

I'm no expert on S1/S2 but look at the separators at the beginning and end of the frame number. Shouldn't they be stars and not astricks?

Still won't answer everything but it might at least help.
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Kevin Combs · Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:54 pm Post subject: Lambretta

I wondered about that too. So I checked my 59 series 1 and the frame #'s look exactly the same (except for the actual #'s). It has been an Ohio scoot since new. It came with all the keys, full tool roll, and owners manual from 59 so it's a pretty good scoot to refer back to. I'll go have a look at that manual. it may tell me something.
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vdublammy · Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:55 pm Post subject:

kewl project. My series 1 had the same deal. Late model #'s with all series 1 body parts etc. Mine is a 59. Looks like it may be a framebreather with the holes or the farmers wanted to do something special.
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Rateza · Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 7:30 pm Post subject:

My Series 1 frame number has the asterisks between the numbers, but is strangely a *125LI*703XXX* which is shown as a first month of 1959 Series II production on Roberto's serial number page.

It has the Series 1 Legshield/Horncast mounting bracket on the front fork tube though (ie mounting holes for the horncast wider apart than Series 2) which would suggest it is a Series 1 frame.

Scooter came as a basket case from Fresno so I cant be sure its all original.

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Lambrettayeroc · Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 10:34 pm Post subject:

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jmcc · Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 4:52 pm Post subject:

I've got one in similar condition, but a year younger. My frame number is the sme format as yours, with an Innocenti symbol under where your strap is.

Kevin Combs · Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 6:02 pm Post subject: Series 1 help

Kinda sad aren't they? Mine spent some time in Texas as the Lackland AFB parking sticker would indicate. They could have been painted with the same bucket of barn paint. I'm only guessing about the 1958. It could be a 59. I'm just wondering about the holes in the rear of the frame. It isn't a hack job. they were punched out at the factory. Does yours have ribs or holes?
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jmcc · Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 7:49 pm Post subject:

Mine is ribbed. Ooh err.

The holes are for the "framebreather" type, but as you have an air intake under the seat too, I'd guess yours is probably using up the last of the older frames.

I'm guessing mine is '59. You might be onto something with the Lackland AFB and that red paint.

quadmodrophenia · Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 1:16 am Post subject: